Tuesday, August 19, 2014

There's Gotta Be More To This One...

#1 Blogdaughter sends this one in. I really, really hope there's more to this story, because if not, there is something seriously wrong...

Woman dies after police shooting in San Jose
A 19-year-old San Jose woman was shot and killed by police Thursday morning after it appeared she was advancing at officers with a weapon. The incident happened along busy Blossom Hill Road in San Jose.

Police tried to negotiate with the woman as she remained inside a duplex unit on the 700 block of Blossom Hill Road near Playa del Rey. The caller who contacted police said the woman had an Uzi and was threatening to kill family members.
Looking at the video, it's pretty obvious that she is not holding a firearm of any kind. However, I am also very cognizant that a) I am not a responding police officer who has been told by dispatch that this is potentially a mentally unstable person with an Uzi, and b) I have the benefit of 20/20 hindsight from behind the safety of my monitor. I've never had to make a split-second decision as to whether the person facing me has a weapon or not.

I do wish the media would stop making s**t up, though. "The object in the woman's hand landed in the road. It was later determined to be a cordless drill painted flat black." - sure sounds like they're trying to paint the picture that the woman painted the drill. Looking at pictures from the link, though, it looks like, well, pretty much any Black and Decker drill from the past, well, 30 or so years. If she altered the drill, state she altered the drill. If you don't know, shut the hell up.

I wonder how many of these crises have been at least in part the media's making?

That is all.


Anonymous said...

With all the military equipment the police departments are getting, purchasing on their own -- how come binoculars aren't part of that?

I mean wouldn't that be a fairly simple way to tell a cordless drill from an Uzi.

Not to mention how many of the 'Patrol Rifles' have scopes on them.

Bob S.

Harry Flashman said...

It's a bad idea to be confronting the police with anything in your hands that could be mistaken for a weapon. If they've been cops for any length of time then they already have some bad experiences with mentally ill individuals, it makes them tend to be quicker to react, and that can cause mistakes.

In my state, we no longer have public facilities for the mentally ill. All were closed as part of the budget cuts after the 2007 debacle. So now, a mentally ill person is kept at a hospital until a bed opens up at a private facility, of which we have four. Then they stay there until they see a shrink, who releases them, so they do something crazy, so then they wind up at a hospital.........

Glenn B said...

The female officer says stop right there fairly loud as far as the audio video recorder heard it - well at least the first time. I would bet the recorder was very close to her. The next two times that she says it again, you can barely hear her and chances are the 'suspect' may never have heard it, or at least understood I, because of all the other noise. Terrible way to give commands in my opinion unless of course she was loud and clear all 3 times and it was the recorder that recorded the volume poorly.

You can surely hear the shot though after the third time she says it. I would think maybe the officers could have done that differently but would not fault them for doing it the way it was done except maybe for the lowered volume of her follow-up commands (if that was due to her lowering her voice) and not using the word POLICE, as a preface. (Although I can think of other commands I may have given that would be personal choice so I will not go into that further.)

My guess, and it is just a guess right now, is that there is a good possibility drugs or alcohol were involved and /or that the 'suspect' was deranged and was looking to commit suicide by cop.

As far as that looking like a weapon or not, you can bet your arse if you come at me with the same thing, pointing it at me like that, and I tell you to cease and desist and then you keep pointing it at me - I am taking defensive action that may well include you being shot without further warning. It looked more than enough like a gun, especially after a 911 caller said she had a gun and after she advanced on the police like that after being ordered to drop it.

Allow me to add, I would bet there will be no race riots, looting, shootings because of that.

Old NFO said...

If it bleeds it leads... And if you can inject 'questions' you can get two or three days out of it...

Matthew said...

The Reporter likely googled "cordless drill" saw the Dewalt, Milwaukee, Ryobi, etc were brightly colored, assumed all brands were, remembered the whole "painting toy guns to look real" stories and decided to pad out their story by sounding "informed."

Should have asked "Can anyone confirm?"

Jim said...

No sane cop wants to be drilled. Especially if the bit in question starts with a "4", right?

Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

AndyN said...

Another article I read said she was bi-polar, possibly off her meds, and called 911 herself claiming that she had an Uzi and was going to kill her family. If all that's true, this looks a lot like a very thorough effort at suicide by cop.

That said, if you find a more lengthy clip of that cell phone video, you'll see that's she's rambling about for over 40 seconds before she's shot. I'd be much more inclined to give the officer the benefit of the doubt if she'd pulled the trigger as soon as the woman pointed the drill in the general direction of the responding officers, but with nearly a minute to observe her it's hard to believe anyone even remotely familiar with firearms would think that was a gun in her hands. Considering how often contagious gunfire breaks out after the first shot when there are that many police officers deployed around a suspect, but in this case only one officer fired, it seems likely the other officers on the scene also realized there was no actual threat.

.45ACP+P said...

Another sad case of "play stupid games, win stupid prizes". Someone should issue binoculars to the cops. "Weapon" identification might prevent another tragedy.