Thursday, August 8, 2013

The Massachusetts of the Southwest?

I'd expect this sort of story, sent in by reader Doug, out of Massachusetts, California, or New Jersey. Until very recently, I would never have figured it for Colorado, though.

Castle Rock apartment tenants told they must get rid of their guns
CASTLE ROCK - Retired Marine Art Dorsch says his Second Amendment rights are in danger.

His apartment complex, the Oakwood Apartments in Castle Rock, sent out a notice telling all residents to get rid of their guns.

The 77-year-old retired US Marine Corps veteran sent a newstip to 9Wants to Know saying he's afraid he'll be homeless if he doesn't comply.
Now, for starters, let's get one thing straight: This has precisely nothing to do with the Second Amendment. A private entity deciding to set a rule banning [item] has nothing to do with the Second Amendment. You are perfectly free to leave the housing complex without going to jail. It may not be the best arrangement for you, but there are options available.

That said, this stinks on ice.

However, even the original report indicates that this has already been rectified. Apparently when word got out about the unpopular policy, the reaction was so swift, immediate, and universally reviled that the apartment complex realized they were looking at either a mass revolt, or a mass walkout. And when you have a large group of senior citizens, having half of them suddenly stop paying their rent and deciding to make you undergo eviction proceedings would be less than advantageous...

You know, it's funny. Doug also sent in this story about the largest firearms facility in Colorado and the trouble they're facing opening the facility. Seems like they're running into opposition from a nearby housing development who don't like the idea of a gun range within walking distance (personally, I'd view that as a *HUGE* plus...). They're opposing the range on the basis that it's not "safe" - and, naturally, they're citing the reams of data that show all kinds of errant shootings that happen at upscale gun ranges. Or not.

I expect - hell, I encounter - that sort of mindset here in Massachusetts; it's too bad to see that the rot is spreading to otherwise sane areas...

That is all.

11 comments:

Bubblehead Les. said...

I now consider Kolorado a Colony of the Kalifornia VolksRepublik.

Dave H said...

You're right about that being a private contract matter, not a 2nd Amendment matter, but a contract party unilaterally changing the contract is a fair target for legal action. It'd be different if the tenants agreed to a "no guns" rule when they signed the lease.

Ham radio operators have dealt with this same issue for decades. FCC rules require municipalities to allow hams to erect reasonable antenna structures, but the Feds won't touch antenna restrictions written into deeds and housing development rules. If it was in the paper when you signed it, you have to abide by it.

Jay G said...

Les,

It's a shame, too. The folks I know in CO are just as freedom-minded as you and I; they're being inundated with CA refugees in Denver is the issue, I think. It is positively spellbinding country, and I really enjoyed my visit last year.

Dave,

Oh, I agree completely that the tenants have reason for action. It's still not 2A grounds, though.

Just a pedantic pet peeve...

Tango said...

I don't have a link yet, but the company that actually OWNS the property for these apartments says that the property manager never brought this to them to ask for their go-ahead and they are canning the idea with great haste as soon as they found out it was happening.

Cheers!

Tango said...

Edit: Found it. It looks like it was the board of directors that were out of the loop on this and they're the ones that canned it.

http://www.9news.com/rss/story.aspx?storyid=349123

Anonymous said...

Califorming

Anonymous said...

Actually, Jay, this is a public housing project. Because it's government quasi-owned (public/private partnership) an outright ban on guns is a direct infringement on renter's 2A rights. You take the .Gov's money, you have to abide by some rules. And not being able to be a gun-grabbing jerk is one of them.

bluesun said...

Jay, when I started reading you I used to wonder what it would be like living in MA. Now I don't. Denver has never been something that people in Western Colorado (last I heard we had a 17% Democrat level in my county) has liked, but it was usually a matter of a yearly fight over water rights and then we just ignored each other for the rest of the time. With this recent Democrat majority, even that changed... I'm hoping for a good 2014, but if that falls through, it definitely becomes a bit of a "what's the point of staying here?"

Knotthead said...

Here, Kentucky law specifically forbids landlords from this. While I once had some sympathy for them in this matter, I no longer do. If you lease an apartment to someone as their home, it is their home, and they are free to enjoy any rights they are entitled to, as long as they do not abuse the property. If you have a problem with this, you are free to convert your property to other use.

Old NFO said...

Californication... And if I remember right, Oakwood is a CA corp...

Sailorcurt said...

I would think that if the renters have leases that don't stipulate anything about guns, they would have been able to sue if it hadn't been rescinded so quickly.

Once a lease is signed and the renter moves in, that's his "domicile". I don't care who owns the building, they can't change the rules half-way through.

Now they may change the rules when the lease runs out and it's time for a new one, but to just one day arbitrarily change the rules? I would think that wouldn't fly.

Of course, I'm no lawyer, I don't play one on TV and I didn't even stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night, so I could easily be wrong.

Basing opinions about the law on things like common sense and decency is a dangerous thing as the law rarely has any relationship with either (the law being infested by such nonsensical and indecent creatures as lawyers, judges and politicians, after all).