Wednesday, June 19, 2013

How Conveeeeenient!

A reader who wishes to remain anonymous sends in this shocking - shocking - article...

The F.B.I. Deemed Agents Faultless in 150 Shootings
WASHINGTON — After contradictory stories emerged about an F.B.I. agent’s killing last month of a Chechen man in Orlando, Fla., who was being questioned over ties to the Boston Marathon bombing suspects, the bureau reassured the public that it would clear up the murky episode.
“The F.B.I. takes very seriously any shooting incidents involving our agents, and as such we have an effective, time-tested process for addressing them internally,” a bureau spokesman said.
They take these shootings very seriously - right before they rubber-stamp them as "approved". 150 people shot over a 20 year period and every single shoot was a good shoot? I guess it's easy to have a shoot declared "good" when the only investigating agency is ... drumroll, please ... the FBI.
I love this, too:
Current and former F.B.I. officials defended the bureau’s handling of shootings, arguing that the scant findings of improper behavior were attributable to several factors. Agents tend to be older, more experienced and better trained than city police officers. And they generally are involved only in planned operations and tend to go in with “overwhelming presence,” minimizing the chaos that can lead to shooting the wrong people, said Tim Murphy, a former deputy director of the F.B.I. who conducted some investigations of shootings over his 23-year career.
Now, maybe the FBI has undergone a sea change since the days when Dad G. interacted with them as a MA State Police officer, but I'll just say that his impression of the FBI is not what one would call favorable. Add to that the whole Whitey Bulger saga, where FBI agents were allowing mob hits to occur while they were with informants, well... There's another aspect, too - a shooting in MD in 2002 resulted in a million dollar settlement to the family of the deceased - and it was ruled a good shoot.

They detail the five (out of nearly 300) shoots that were actually declared bad. None of them involved hitting any suspects. One was a "warning shot"; one was an agent "shooting at a firearm" (???); two were shots fired at fleeing felons that missed their mark; and one was a demonstration where the agent fired at a safe, and the bullet ricocheted and hit bystanders. This is all they're willing to admit to. 5 bad shoots out of 289 incidents, only one of which happened in the last 15 years.

Maybe FBI agents are that good - but Occam's Razor postulates it's far more likely that the police need better policing...

That is all.


Joe Allen said...

Wow. The "Only Ones" have their own "Only Ones".

Anonymous said...

Does burning children alive at Waco count as a good shoot? Vicki Weaver was a good shoot?


Armed Texan said...

It sounds like the FBI is staffed by Hollywood actors in a buddy cops movie where every shoot is justified (as long as the boss gets to yell at you for causing him so much paperwork), and shooting to disarm and warning shots are valid police tactics.

Just please don't tell them that they let Eddie Murphy help out on investigations.

Geodkyt said...

Yes, Vickie Weaver was ruled a "good shoot" by FBI -- Horiuchi got promoted.

Stretch said...

FBI = Famous But Incompetent

This is NOT Mr. Hoover's or Efrem Zimbalist's FBI.

Um? Have I just dated myself?

Chris said...

In a similar vein, the FISA court has approved all but eleven (yes, that is 11!) out of 33,900+ requests for warrants to wiretap suspected terrorists. That's about 0.03%. Just . . . wow.

Crotalus said...

This is one more reason why I will never trust government again forever.

Ed said...

I heard that they preferred to refer to themselves as the "F***ing Bastards Incorporated".

instinct said...

My dad (former state police officer) has a very similar opinion of the Feebs that your dad has, Jay.

His one statement about them is "Yeah, they'll investigate the hell out of something but just don't expect them to actually do law enforcement."

Firehand said...

Don't forget the EffingBI laboratory having turned out to have been lying about various lab results that had sent a lot of people to prison; last I heard, nobody was actually fired or prosecuted for that, either.

Dad considered the EffingBI guy who worked his area to be pretty good, but the agency overall... "God's Chosen are here. Give us everything you have, and if there's credit to be had we'll take it; you get any blame."