Tuesday, May 21, 2013

Can Someone Explain This?

Because I sure as hell can't...

Ft. Hood Shooter Getting Paid While Victims Struggle
The Department of Defense confirms to NBC 5 Investigates that accused Fort Hood shooter Major Nidal Hasan has now been paid more than $278,000 since the Nov. 5, 2009 shooting that left 13 dead 32 injured. The Army said under the Military Code of Justice, Hasan’s salary cannot be suspended unless he is proven guilty.
If Hasan had been a civilian defense department employee, NBC 5 Investigates has learned, the Army could have suspended his pay after just seven days.
WTF, over? If this is, indeed the case, why the hell is this still dragging on nearly four years later? There is very little question as to whether or nor Hasan was the shooter; it's more of a question of motive/mental state etc. Why on earth has there been no movement to put the chain of events in motion to stop him from getting paid?

There is one bright spot to this story, though. If they're still adhering to the MCJ, the option for the death penalty is still on the table. Sadly. I'll bet that the wait for that is even longer than the wait to bring Hasan to trial. At this rate, he's far more likely to die of old age than as a result of his crimes...

Unless of course they let the state of Texas try him...

That is all.

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Not convicted so he is innocent until proven guilty.

Wait till he get found not guilty by reason of insanity and get a .gov pension while in the loony bin. Then you can really foam at the mouth.

Gerry

Anonymous said...

Should be sentenced to organ donation - shoot him up with curare, put him on a ventilator, pull out all of his useful organs while he's able to feel everything done to him but not move, then after you've transplanted everything useful. The lovely thing about curare is he can feel everything done to him, but no one has to hear his screams... :)

Anonymous said...

Yet another shining example of Eric Holder's Justice Dept.

Sigivald said...

I sure hope Anon@4:55 doesn't claim to be in favor of Constitutional government.

Because it turns out that "cruel and unusual punishment" is actually not allowed, even when it's "for a really bad person".

(Torture fantasies, even in revenge for murder, do not make you An Awesome Person. Honest.)

wolfwalker said...

As Anon #1 says above: it's the law: innocent until proven guilty. There may be -- and if there isn't there should be -- a way to strip him of his pay and benefits even if he's found "not guilty by reason of insanity" -- but not until the verdict is in can anything be done.

I know, I know -- I don't like it one goddamn bit either. The guy is scum and deserves to be done to death in the most painful way imaginable (and I dunno about you, but I can imagine some very painful ways). But if you value the Constitution and our system of law, you simply can't punish him before he's officially and formally found guilty, no matter how obvious his guilt is. You don't like it, I don't like it -- but I suspect we'd all like the alternative a lot less. Imagine this administration with the legal power to order punishment before a verdict is reached!

Stretch said...

Fearless prediction:
Hasan wont be convicted until the summer of 2016.
The day after the 2016 presidential election Hasan will be transferred to a muslim country to serve out his sentence.
On 21 January 2017, just as the new president is being sworn in, said muslim country will release Hasan.

Cynical? Yup. Pessimistic? You bet.

Old NFO said...

+1 on Stretch... and yes they HAVE to pay him until he is proven guilty.

TigerStripe said...

We, Texas, would convict him and give him the death penalty after he gets a fair trial.

With the CIC being who he is, it may very well be 2016 before he is convicted in military court. TS

ASM826 said...

Sure, I can explain it.

The war's over. We lost. No one has told us yet.

We have a socialist President, government run health care, a press that has abandoned principles, new attacks on the Bill of Rights that go unchallenged, and we need the oil we get from the Middle East so badly that no one will provoke the Saudis.

Hasan's never going to prison for the murders he committed. No one is going tell the truth of why he acted as he did. It will just drg out until we forget and he will be quietly transferred to a hospital of one flavor or another.

I said I could explain it. I didn't say you'd like the explanation.

Cargosquid said...

Is ol' Hasan still paralyzed?

The blogger Grouchy Ol' Cripple had a great post about what he has to go through...and hopes that Hasan has a nice looooong life in prison...paralyzed by the cop's defensive shot.

acairfearann said...

Innocent till proven guilty.
But, it seems to me that the foot dragging on this case does violate a different point: "Right to a fair and speedy trial".

Now granted, I'm not sure the defendant is in favour of that clause in this case, but I think the taxpayers would be. (at least assuming the gov't actually found him guilty and stopped his salary, which I wouldn't bet on these days)

Andie said...

Sooo... he gets paid until proven guilty. Remind me again, who is footing the bill for his defense, care, housing, and feeding in the meantime?

Personally I'd like his pay to be held in escrow until there is a verdict, all of his outstanding bills paid in full with said escrow, and he can have whatever is left. OWAIT--since he'll only have bills left, and be on assistance anyway because of his injuries, and there will be further litigation from his side for something, we'll still be out the money!

There's just no making this one fair, let alone make it have sense...

Geodkyt said...

The problem I have is not that Hasan still has his pay, benefits, rank, and decorations until he is convicted.

It is that they have not managed to court martial him yet to strip him of those. C'mon, this is a slam dunk case.

Hell, they could have court martial him on "Conduct Unbecoming", stripped him of pay and benefits, and reserved going to trial on the other elements if necessary. The Conduct Unbecoming charge wouldn't (IIRC military justice -- we got any JAG lawyers out there to pipe up?) preclude coming back with the other criminal elements of the charge. . .

ParatrooperJJ said...

Negative - you have to charge for all crimes at once when you empanel a court martial.

Anonymous said...

The thing that is worse is that since Obama will not let this be called terrorism or act of war. These soldiers &the families of the dead get nothing because Obama and Holder are calling it work place violence.