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Tuesday, January 22, 2013

Rethinking Restrictions...

The BLNN reports on an inevitable story out of NYC:

NYPD sued over summer’s Empire State shooting
A University of North Carolina student wounded in last summer's shooting outside the Empire State Building is suing New York City police department.
Chenin Duclos and eight other bystanders were wounded by police gunfire, ricochets and fragments. Officers were engaged in a gunfight with a man suspected of gunning down a former co-worker.
Ordinarily I'm all for giving the police a little leeway when it comes to this sort of thing, but when they injure NINE bystanders, it seems like this is a little more than just a single round hitting someone on a ricochet. This is more like they were firing blinding in the vague direction of the suspect without any regard for what was behind their target. Rule four matters.

I'm hoping - and I may be wildly optimistic here - that a lawsuit costing the city a fair chunk of change might cause them to re-evaluate officer training. It might suddenly be more cost effective to send all active officers to something more than just "fire 50 rounds at a static paper target and hit > 75% in the black". Granted, with a force as large as the NYPD, it might just be cheaper to take the occasional lawsuit...

Wonder if they'll rethink the LEO exemption to the new ammo capacity ban, though - it might cut down on these situations if they went back to the S&W model 10...

That is all.

8 comments:

Craig M. said...

Problem is, they need fifteen rounds to score one hit.

Brad_in_MA said...

Jay,

My local PoPo are required to requalify with their service weapons twice a year. My town's PD has 25 members, including admin staff. They qual at a local sporting club.

I seem to recall the NYPD having on the order of 30,000 officers. If they had to qual twice a year, imagine the indoor ranges needed to handle the traffic . . . hell, they'd need at least half a dozen ranges just to cover the enormous spread of NYC proper. And this doesn't count transit cops, port authority cops, etc. In a way, I am kind of surprised they didn't hit more than 9 bystanders.

ASM826 said...

Brad,

Maybe those 9 were the only ones that didn't scatter when the cops drew their guns.

Anonymous said...

With the new limit of 7 rounds in the magazine for the popo in New York state, we can expect a 50% reduction in wounded bystanders!

Gerry

Sigivald said...

"And this is why the Police need to be exempt from bans, so they can have those AR-pattern machine-guns with 30 round magazines..."

(I specify machine-guns because so many police departments seem to buy NFA guns - after all, for them, it's no additional cost!

But even if they're using a standard AR-15, they're still lousy shots.)

Old NFO said...

Rule frikkin FOUR!

Chas Clifton said...

Heh.

Ed said...

Then again, the local police department might get banned from a private range because of local politics:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/16/gun-range-bans-police/1840937/

What is good for thee must be good for me.