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Saturday, December 8, 2012

Help A Gunnie Out...

My buddy Dennis came into possession of a rifle he can't identify. He sent in a couple pictures:





Now, I think it's a Yugo M24/47 Mauser. It's got that odd rear sight groove carved into the upper wood, the same bolt safety, etc.

Agree? Disagree? Got another rifle it might be instead?

That is all.

26 comments:

Mopar said...

It's def a Mauser action. Does the 24/47 have that sight groove? I'm pretty sure the Swedish 96's have it. There were a bunch of 48 Yugos around that were never issued so the reciever doesnt have any markings like that one, but they don't have that style sight groove.
No markings at all? Not even caliber? Proofs? Where's Tam? :P

Mopar said...

Come to think of it, I think my old M95 Chilean 7mm Mauser had that style groove too.

Heath J said...

Not a Mauser guy, but it looks similar to a beater Turk 8mm I have.

Mopar said...

The pics arent the best either. I think only the M95s have a notch/lug behind the bolt handle as a half assed added safety to retain the bolt. Can't see if this has that or not.

Tam said...

Not a 24/47, because look at the receiver ring.

I'm tentatively guessing a later Spanish 1916, but that's just spitballing based on the "small-ring" action bent bolt handle and rifle-length tangent rear sight.

Wally said...

Not much help here - top down it looks exactly like my m96 swede but the swede has a straight bolt handle (and is littered with proof marks)

Tam said...

A late production Oviedo 1916 could be pretty sterile in the markings department, is another thing making me lean Spanish...

Brigid said...

Mauser family from the looks but beyond that I'd just be guessing.

Joe Texan said...

A gun store I do some web site work for has a Yugo Mauser on consignment right now; I just looked at it last week trying to figure out what it was. On the end of the barrel, right at the business end, it had a string of text that included the importer's name and the word "YUGO." On the receiver, it had an eagle-ish looking marking stamped into it. I don't recall if it had that groove on it, though.

Tam said...

It is emphatically not a Yugo 24/47, which is on a 98-pattern receiver, which has a receiver ring that is larger in diameter and therefore has a pronounced step ahead of the side rail.

Tam said...

(Look at the detail pictures here of a Chilean 95 versus a Venezuelan 24/30.)

Tam said...

Oops! Pictures here.

Mr. Kermit said...

Tam called it. That's some variant of an 1895 Mauser. Definitely NOT a Yugo. The bolt is an immediate giveaway. Without seeing the crest on the receiver ring, though, I've no idea what variant.

Mr. Kermit said...

Tam, your link is 404'ing on me.

Dragon said...

I've looked all over this bad boy...no markings ANYWHERE on the thing, save for the serial number on the side of the receiver.

Thats it. No proof markings, no caliber, nothing.

Old NFO said...

Not a clue... LOL It's 'some' variation of a Mauser...

Mopar said...

Tam/Kermit: Am I correct that only the M95s have that bolt lock thingie like I said up top? If so, and if Dennis's has that it should narrow things way down, no? It's been 20yrs since I've owned a M95 (I need to correct that, I'll add it to my Amazon wish list, heh) so my memory of how it looked is more then a little fuzzy.

Mopar said...

OK, found a picture online of what I'm talking about. http://dutchman.rebooty.com/images/c12.jpg
If I remember right, that lug/notch/stop whatever is only found on the 95s?

Mopar said...

behind the bolt handle

Angus McThag said...

Tam's Link

Fixed link for Tam.

Glenn B said...

I offer $25 for it.

Wally said...

my experience in the media allows me to know that conclusively is an AK 47

Bushwack said...

Obviously its one of them defective guns.. I know because it's not running amok killing everyone in sight! You should take it back.

Mopar said...

And Wally wins the internetz!

GreyLocke said...

Small ring Chilean Mauser, I had one, the only markings mine had was a serial number and a proof stamp on the left of the receiver above where the trigger/sear was.

Hartley said...

That looks exactly like my M93 Spanish Mauser, tho I can't see how long the barrel is (mine is short). Mine is in 7mm, tho they were converted in large numbers to .308. Many of them either had no markings or they were scrubbed.