Thursday, November 29, 2012

Holy Ignorant PSH Batman!

Dear lord. It frightens me that there are people this positively bats**t insane over inanimate objects out there...

Arming children with the facts about guns

ALBANY — Should children be allowed to handle guns?
In Rensselaer County, two probation officers say yes — although it is unclear if the practice is legal.
Court papers obtained by the Times Union show that two of the county's probation officers said under oath that they allowed their young children to handle their unloaded service weapons as a way to satisfy the children's curiosity about guns.
Read a little further down in the article, and the issue becomes clear - there's a nasty divorce, and the estranged husband is trying to paint his wife as an unfit parent because she showed their children her sidearm. You, sir, are an asshole of the highest order. This will wind up resulting in a stupid ruling with predictably stupid results - and there's a more than fair chance that someone will get hurt because their parent was not allowed to teach them. That's all on you, jerk.

Children are highly curious, highly intelligent beings. There will come a day when they put two and two together and realize that "parent being a cop" = "gun in the house". When that day comes, which is better? The children knowing nothing about firearms and exploring on their own, or the children having been taught about firearms from an early age? I think we all know the answer to that one.

My dad was a MA state cop. He had me loading and unloading his service revolver from the time I was like four years old (yes, I blame my dad for both my gun nuttery and my love of Smith & Wesson revolvers). He knew that there would come a day when my friends would ask about his gun - it's a given. "Your dad's a cop, right? Let's see his gun!" Dad rightly figured that it was better his children know the dangers inherent therein and handle the gun properly than to hide it and hope that we never found it.

It's not surprising that this is an issue, though; not in Albany, New York. Fear of an inanimate object overrules basic safety considerations - it's amazing there aren't more chainsaw accidents if people are this afraid of firearms. It's discouraging, though, to read a story like this - firearms are not nuclear weapons nor complex calculus; it does not take much to familiarize oneself with the proper operation and how to handle it safely. The more afraid of firearms people are, the less likely they are to know what to do when they come across them.

The cynic in me can't help but wonder if this is a feature, not a bug, for the gun grabbers. Children knowing how to properly handle firearms - like knowing to leave the room if they find one like the Eddie Eagle program from the NRA teaches them - don't have tragic accidents that can be used to further agendas. A kid seeing a firearm and cordoning off the area until an adult can be found to retrieve it might make the local newspaper as a quick blurb - a pre-teen finding his dad's unsecured shotgun in the back of a closet and shooting a sibling is a national tragedy.

I do have to wonder how many of the "don't teach kids about guns" crowd subscribe to the "free condoms in grammar school because they're going to do it anyways" line of thinking...

That is all.


Sean D Sorrentino said...

The defense lawyer needs to introduce this video

Slam dunk.

John Anderson said...


Jay G said...

Pants-S**ting Hysteria. Robb Allen has a graphic.

I'm trying to make the blog more PG-13 (my son's starting to get online more...) so I'm censoring myself a little more than in the old days...

Ruth said...

Its Albany, what else did you expect?

My hubby grew up just outside Syracuse, in a hunting family. He was taught how to handle guns, safely, at a young age. His parents, like your dad, knew that at some point curiosity would rear its head and felt it was better he KNOW, than play....

Anonymous said...

About every 3 months my kids ask me to crack open the safe and show them how a specific gun works, or see their gun, or show them the differences between a revolver and a shotgun or whatever.

Everytime, without question, I drop what I am doing and I spend 15-30 minutes teaching gun safety and answering their questions.

To my kids guns are interesting in the same way hammers are interesting and I trust them around a gun more than most adults.

I almost wish they thought they had more mystery so they would be excited to go shooting, but they are so mundane in our house they would rather play soccer.

Wolfman said...

I think its more of a systemic difference in thought process. Kevin Baker, somewhere in the Shrine of the Uberpost known as The Smallest Minority, had a post regarding the Constrained vs Unconstrained view of humanity; I think this is related. Its as though these people think that by avoiding even the merest hint of violence or aggression, they can starve the tendency out of mankind. Any aggressive behavior, or the implements thereof, must be suppressed- if there is no aggression, there will be no violence. It can, of course, work, but not with mankind as we know it. And thus, they come back to the Pax, and create their own Reavers once again.

Jay G said...


I've had the same thing happen with my kids. TheBoy is "meh" about shooting - even though he loves him some Call of Duty - because there's no mystery there. We go to the range, the guns go bang, etc.

It's good, in that I've drilled the four rules into both kids and I don't think they'll ever point a gun at someone else - or stick around if someone's playing with a firearm - but bad in that I'd get more range time if they wanted to come shootin' with dad...

Stretch said...

When I'd asked to play with Grandma's gun (H&R break-top .32) she'd empty it and make me count the rounds in her hand and the empty chambers in the cylinder. If I didn't come up with 6 of each I had to find the full chamber of the missing cartridge. I was 5 or 6 at the time.
I could then play cops and robbers or cowboys and Indians with the gun.
Upon leaving she would have me put the rounds into the cylinder and then she'd close the action and place the gun back in the drawer.
And this was in DC!!
Progress isn't all it's cracked up to be.

instinct said...

We started with BB guns in my family, but since dad was a cop and also Navy BUD/S, we always had pistols, shotguns and rifles around.

I remember dad teaching us the four rules, but guns were no mystery to any of us and we all knew where they were.

This new 'progressive' society is a bunch of maroons.