Wednesday, August 15, 2012

And In *Other* Disturbing News...

Reader Gerry sends in something that should worry you just a bit...

Russian Attack Submarine Sailed in Gulf of Mexico Undetected for Weeks
A Russian nuclear-powered attack submarine armed with long-range cruise missiles operated undetected in the Gulf of Mexico for several weeks and its travel in strategic U.S. waters was only confirmed after it left the region, the Washington Free Beacon has learned.

It is only the second time since 2009 that a Russian attack submarine has patrolled so close to U.S. shores.
Is this simple sabre-rattling, or are the Russians itching for the bad old days of the Cold War? With significant defense cuts looming, is this a ploy by the military to maintain the status quo, or are we so crippled that our decades-long enemy feels emboldened to stretch their military legs? It's hard to imagine a scenario in which this is good for Team Obama; they've been remarkably tepid on defense situations (except when Obama can claim credit for killing a terrorist), so it's not like they've got anything to gain from this news.

However, it's also hard to see how this would benefit the Romney campaign - it's not like being governor of Massachusetts for a single term prepares him for life on the international stage. He's not known for being a hawk; he's not Ronald Reagan reacting to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan nor the Iranian hostage situation, that's for certain. It's hard to see who benefits by leaking this information - except for defense contractors who might have a stake in keeping the defense $$$ coming.


We're starting to see the Chinese curse about living in interesting times come true, it seems...

That is all.


13 comments:

Dave H said...

"It is only the second time since 2009 that a Russian attack submarine has patrolled so close to U.S. shores."

That we know about.

JD Rush said...

Part of me hopes we knew and are smart enough to NOT say so. I laugh at that part of me a lot, lately.

Mark said...

http://txfellowship.blogspot.com/2012/08/ieds-on-our-southern-border.html

I've been picking up signals out in the Gulf for the last few months plus some other anomalies.

Not trying to hijack Jay's post.

libertyman said...

No wonder the Fishery and Wildlife people need more ammunition.

Stretch said...

My wife's landscaping project may turn into a fallout shelter project.
Did Duck And Cover drills in 2nd grade during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
I'm very much afraid that the time between 6 Nov. and 20 Jan. are going to be very interesting indeed.

Anonymous said...

The question I have is do we have anyone even looking anymore? When I, you would see P-3 flying out on patrol from Willow Grove NAS. I don't think there is a squadron there anymore.

Gerry

Cargosquid said...

How do we know that it was undetected? If it was undetected, how do we know that it was there for so long? Furthermore, its an easy trip up from Venezuela.

Akula II's do have cruise missiles. I'm sure we hang around their ports too. As vet of the ASW world during the 80's...this is just business as usual.

Andie said...

At least it was the Russians and not the Chinese...

Anonymous said...

Ya, this is terrible. Because U.S. submarines haven't EVER patrolled the Barents Sea or Kola Inlet...

If you want to test your stealth capabilities, where do you go? To the place with the best ASW around.

Doesn't phase me a bit.

Dirt Sailor said...

If you believe that they were undetected, than Eric Holder has some things he wants to tell you about Guns and Mexico.

notDilbert said...


Saber-Rattling???

I very much doubt that Barry has ever even held a Saber. The meaning is totally lost on him.

You know that Putin has no fear of Barry, ever since he saw the Photo of the Sitroom when Osama was taken---Barry off cowering in the corner with the Military Brass running the show. No one would dare suggest that Putin be seated anywhere but the Head of the table with all the controls at his fingers.


Anonymous said...

Putin is pissed about the missle defense ring going up around his borders and is showing it. imho

As for Romney, I'd like to address that. Keep in mind, I'm more of a "anybody but Obamma" kind of voter.

Yes, it's true that Romney may not have much foreign policy experience. The takeaway on this is that he is a smart manager, who knows how to put good people in positions to advise him and then, he LISTENS to the advice. This was said of him as a Governor, turning the Utah Olympics from a loser to a moneymaker, and at Bain Capital.

Obamma has Valarie Jarrett in his ear and listens to few others.

Big difference here.

Ed said...

No more P-3's flying out of NAS South Weymouth - no more NAS South Weymouth, either.

Forget about "duck and cover" drills. During the 60's there were nuclear warhead equipped Nike-Hercules AA missile launcher sites arrayed in a ring around Boston:

http://ed-thelen.org/loc-m.html#Massachusetts
http://alpha.fdu.edu/~bender/N-view.html

And then there was all the fun activity at the Hingham Ammunition Depot and Annex:

http://friendsofwompatuck.org/FOW2.PDF

As the lighters left the Ammo Depot via the Back River they would have cruised past the Nike-Hercules launch site in North Weymouth. I bet the personnel waved to each other.

Not all the links on this page are accurate (the Nike base site photos are mislabeled), but enough interesting stuff to explore:
http://coldwar-ma.com/Home_Page.php