Friday, July 20, 2012

That Didn't Take Long...

So some lunatic shoots up the midnight showing of the new Batman flick. It's a tragedy, to be certain; the person involved is either mentally unbalanced or psychotic (or both); and within hours of the shooting, we have this:

Obama says he is 'shocked' by Colo. Shooting
MANALAPAN, Fla. — President Barack Obama said Friday he was "shocked and saddened" by a deadly shooting at a suburban Denver movie theater and urged the nation to "come together as one American family" in the aftermath of the tragedy.
Obama said in a statement that he and first lady Michelle Obama were shocked by the "horrific and tragic" shooting. Obama said his administration would do everything they can to support the people of Aurora, Colo.
We couldn't have waited a day or two for the initial shock to wear off? It happened at midnight today; by the morning news Obama has a statement? I understand that he's the President and as such is expected to comment; however wouldn't it be more appropriate to wait even 24 hours before releasing comment? What else was Obama going to say? It's a tragedy. Twelve people lost their lives in a senseless act of seemingly random violence.

Another thing that confused me was this: "The FBI said there was no indication that the shooting had any connection to terrorism." Really? This happened nine hours ago. They've had time to thoroughly research this dude's entire life in nine hours? I'm sorry, but color me a little skeptical, given that the person responsible for the mass shooting at Fort Sill Hood (thanks DS!) three years ago was determined to have been suffering from PTSD, even though he never saw combat and he was yelling ALLAH U AKBAR during the shooting...

And one last question: CO still has the death penalty, right?

That is all.


Dirt Sailor said...

1. I believe you mean Fort Hood
2. Yes, Colorado does.

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Lupis42 said...

Given that the nutbar in question has been in custody for those 9 hours, it's not that crazy for them to be in a position to rule out terrorism by now.

Also worth noting: CO has binding signage, and the theater had a no-guns allowed policy.

Anonymous said...

How is this anything other than Terrorism? How else would we define it.

Random killing of innocents IS Terrorism.

JD said...

Jay you know I am no Obama fan but I have no problem if he is making comments of support for the victims and support from the country, that is his job. Now if he starts using this to call for restricting our rights instead of figuring out why the nut did this then I have problems. I will be surprised if this is not terrorism at some level. . . even if he is just a wanna be and never talked to a terrorist group or got training from them.

Anonymous said...

Teh 0ne will address the nation this afternoon pursuant the shooting.
I fear he will issue an Executive Order severely restricting sales of guns and ammo.

"Never let a crisis go to waste."

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:12

Terrorism is used to change or impact governmental or group policies.

A nut job who shoots people down because he wants to be a super villan is not a terrorist.

Unless he spilled his guts when he was arrested, I'm unsure how DHS/FBI can know his motives.


Ambulance Driver said...

I'll have to disagree with you here. I'm okay with him issuing a statement at this time. In fact, I expect it of him.

At least he had the sense not to make a political statement out of it.

MaddMedic said...

A crisis shall not go to waste and if Obama issues any executive orders about limiting guns and ammo...He can kiss a 2nd Term good bye.
How can he continue to say and do what he does angering someone every day.

Unless as I suspect he has something else 'up his sleeve'. I do not trust him NOT or should I say the powers behind the throne, to do what they need to do.
To reelect him.

Dirk said...

Those "No Guns" signs really worked well, eh?

Sabra said...

To be fair, if he had waited 24 hours to make a statement, he would have been eviscerated for sitting on it and probably be accused of trying to find a way to politicize it first.

However, the FBI's statements absolutely should be raked over the coals. He had an "AK-type" gun, y'know.

Daniel in Brookline said...

Me too. I'm glad that the President weighed in quickly, and that his response was apolitical.

I'd really, really appreciate it if he could keep it that way. I'm not hopeful, but hey, I could be wrong.

mikee said...

Not a tragedy, an atrocity. Tragedy requires the rise to fame, power, authority or other attribute, then a fall to ignominy, death or destruction by a main character, preferably through a fault or flaw inherent in themselves or their situation.

An atrocity is an outrage perpetrated against the innocent.

Atrocities cannot be allowed to stand without trying to prevent, stop or punish the perpetrators.

Tragedies enlighten observers the human condition and often cannot be avoided.

Firedigger in Colorado said...

Lupis42 said Colorado has binding signage. Not true. " No gun" signs do not have the force of law unless the premises fit into one of several categories defined in the law. The theater was not one of these. If a person carries into a place with "no gun" signs, he is only in violation if he does not leave when asked.

Anonymous said...

In the wake of events, in addition to the "No Guns" signs, AMC Theaters now will no longer allow masks or fake guns into their theaters.

Given that the gunman bought a ticket, propped an exit door open, went to his parked automobile for the weapons and gas mask, then returned to the theater, that revised policy will make absolutely no difference.

So, kids, when you see someone with a gas mask and a weapon, go contact an usher in the lobby and let him know. Pay no attention to that choking gas and the bullets whizzing by your heads. Get some popcorn while you are in the lobby before returning to the movie, OK?

Egil Woxholt said...

Guns! Guns! Guns! Nothing but guns! Guns trump everything! Guns! Guns! Guns!

Crotalus (Don't Tread on Me) said...

Maybe this guy's a BATFEces operative being used to take the heat off of Fast and Furious, and Obama was in on it. That would explain why Obama was so quick with a statement.

Anonymous said...

The morning statement, aside from "tragedy" doesn't phase me. I'd expect the POTUS, CO governor and Aurora mayor to do something along those lines. Now, the Yahoos (in the Swiftian sense) who started chanting "four more years" during the afternoon speech are another piece of work entirely.

As someone said over at Ambulance Driver's place, rather than a firearms matter (OK, the inability of media and FBI to tell an AK from anything else aside) this might be a mental health matter, much like the AZ incident and other non-firearms murders.